[cr-india] Good news for CR practitioners- technology options

Ram Bhat ram at voicesindia.org
Fri Mar 16 06:33:11 CET 2007


Dear All,

I had posted this on cr india a few days ago, however it doesn't seem to
have made it...
i'm resending, and look forward to inputs on this.

Best

Ram


During the CEMCA workshop, Community Radio Series for Science and Women, Mr.
Singaravelu kindly gave some time for questions and clarity regarding CR.
Some excerpts from this session:


Mr. Singaravelu has said that the main concern was that of spurious
emissions, harmonics etc...
if we can get transmitters built indigenously but certified by a recognized
lab (he didn't specify which labs) then he would have no problem clearing
them...
He also said that getting these indigenous transmitters would encourage
Research and Development in our country and reduce costs ten fold...however
we would have to conform to ITU standards....
There were two other salient points he touched upon..
1) the spectrum fees of Rs. 20, 000 cannot be waived, but if somebody like
Dr. Sreedher can make a recommendation that the fee be paid once in three or
five years, or the spectrum fees itself can be reduced (if it is to be
annual payment) then they would consider it...
2) Mr. Singaravelu has also said that if there exists a BSNL tower (i would
imagine any other phone tower also) in the vicinity, then the practitioner
can put the antenna on the 30 meter mark (provided the service provider is
amenable of course), thereby avoiding separate investment in the
tower...this would in fact speed up the application process, because the
tower would have been already cleared by the ministry.

Further, Mr. Singaravelu has also said that if the potential practitioner
proposes to put up a radio station and the tower and transmitter are more
than 7 kilometers away from the airport, then Mr. Singaravelu would ensure
that the SACFA clearance is done in less than a week.


All of these points are of immense importance to all radio practitioners, be
it campus or community radio....according to me, these would be the next
action points:


   - Identification of recognized labs which can certify indigenous
   transmitters (or perhaps we should explore if BEL or BECIL or one of these
   groups can certify these transmitters)
   - Identification of national or international groups which can provide
   open source transmitter designs
   - Identification of individuals or groups which can actually build
   these transmitters
   - Work out who actually should make the recommendation for the
   spectrum fees issue

Finally, as a member of the Community Radio Forum, I would like to say that
we should respect the present policy which puts campus, community and Krishi
Vigyan Kendras in one bracket.

At the Community Radio Series workshop for Science and Women, about twenty
campus radio practitioners were present and since we are all working with
the same intentions, I have invited all of these campus stations to be a
part of the Community Radio Forum and the first step would be to become
subscribers of cr-india at sarai.net.
We can work out the modalities of membership to the Forum in due time.

Looking forward to discussions and inputs on these points from all
concerned...
apologies for the long post.

best

ram
VOICES

On 3/13/07, sreedher ramamurthy < r.sreedher at gmail.com > wrote:

> Dear All I dont mind extending email support to all who would like to
> apply for CR stations.   Also they can go to the nearest campus station to
> see for themselves the working of a CR radio station. I dont think you can
> reduce your expenditure except on the size of the room as well as accoustic
> treatment. All Campus stations work with minimum cheap indian hardware. Some
> of them have the luxury of having two studios . That is all. As I told
> everyone in the CR meet, we need not reinvent the wheel.   Ram attended the
> campus radio meet called for finalising a project titled Science for women
> catalysed by DST. Mr Singaravelu also came . To a reply to a question from
> Ram , he said that he welcomes indian students developing their own FM
> transmitters. He would like them to correspond to ITU specifications. If
> that is so they will recognise those transmitters. Ram said that he will
> upload the same. Since he has not done it till today, I am taking the
> liberty to inform all of you.   Again if you are looking for holding
> regional workshops, it is better you hold at a place where already a CR
> studio or a station is functioning. After all seeing is believing. The
> potential CR enthusiasts will have more opportunity to get an idea of a CR
> station.   Also my request that all existing Campus stations may be allowed
> to become members of CR forum may kindly be followed up seriously.
> sreedher
>
>   On 3/13/07, cr-india-request at sarai.net < cr-india-request at sarai.net >
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> > Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 06:15:30 +0000 (GMT)
> > From: krishna kanabar < krishna_mdc at yahoo.co.in>
> > Subject: [cr-india] thank you
> > To: cr-india at sarai.net
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> > Hey Everyone,
> >
> > Thanx a lot Frederick "FN" Noronha n thank you very much stalin sir for
> > adding my name to the list.
> >
> > Looking forward to explore new opportunities in community radio...and a
> > great association with all of you.
> >
> > thanx  n regards,
> > krishna
> >
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> > Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:27:11 +0530
> > From: "Ram Bhat" < ram at voicesindia.org>
> > Subject: [cr-india] Availability of CRN
> > To: cr-india at sarai.net
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> >
> > Dear All,
> >
> > Have been following the discussions on Community Radio with keen
> > interest
> > and this is re: the discussion some of the CRF members had in Delhi
> > during
> > the national consultation....
> > There have been so many people who mail regularly about application
> > procedures and guidelines, experiences, success stories, impact studies
> > etc....
> > Different people go to different sites and are led to different
> > resources....
> > I'm already getting the sinking feeling that we've been over
> > enthusiastic
> > about our prowess with the internet and created far too many groups and
> > far
> > too many online discussions!
> >
> > It was heartening to see that this forum, cr-india, was being used for
> > all
> > CRF discussions....
> >
> > Similarly, i appeal to all of us who have data to share, to upload it on
> > www.communityradionetwork.org
> >
> > All of you can mail material to me: ram at voicesindia.org or
> > ramnathbhat.13 at gmail.com and i will personally upload it on CRN...
> >
> > however, as with community radio, we all must take ownership of the
> > website,
> > and give me content...
> > the site is putting up content from other sources now only because
> > nobody
> > else is contributing original content...
> >
> > now we have so many different URLs, it can get so confusing for people
> > who
> > are new to this sort of thing...
> >
> > I am already in the process of looking at revamping the site, and will
> > put
> > in some new data, about policy guidelines, application procedures
> > etc....
> >
> > But there is scope for wider participation in terms of audio content,
> > experiences of newer initiatives, technology options which have been
> > tried,
> > experiences from different regions etc....
> >
> > I have raised this in Delhi as well, but have not got any response....
> >
> > best
> >
> > ram
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> > Message: 3
> > Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:41:43 +0530
> > From: "voices" < voices at vsnl.com>
> > Subject: Re: [cr-india] Regional Consultations on CR
> > To: <geeta.malhotra at oneworld.net>, < stalink123 at gmail.com>,
> >        <cr-india at sarai.net >
> > Message-ID: <00b201c76547$3cf65b10$0600a8c0 at ashish>
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> >
> > >From VOICES , the contact persons are :
> >
> > Ramnath Bhat : ram at voicesindia.org
> > Ashish Sen :       ashish at voicesindia.org
> >
> > Best
> >
> > Ram/Ashish
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Geeta Malhotra" <geeta.malhotra at oneworld.net>
> > To: < stalink123 at gmail.com>; < cr-india at sarai.net>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 12:37 PM
> > Subject: Re: [cr-india] Regional Consultations on CR
> >
> >
> > > Dear all
> > >
> > > It is really a good plan of action for organising regional
> > consultations.
> > > It
> > > will be highly appreciated if these organisations share their
> > addresses
> > > and
> > > the contact person, so that we can write to our partners to join these
> > > consulttions from the respective states.
> > >
> > > Looking forward to hearing from all
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Geeta Malhotra
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cr-india-bounces at sarai.net [mailto:cr-india-bounces at sarai.net]
> > On
> > > Behalf Of stalink123 at gmail.com
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 6:45 AM
> > > To: cr-india at sarai.net
> > > Subject: [cr-india] Regional Consultations on CR
> > >
> > > Dear All,
> > >
> > > The two-day Consultation on CR organized by the MIB-UN has got over.
> > > You will hear more about the outcomes from Fred:-)
> > >
> > > The Community Radio Forum was asked to work on and present a Code of
> > > Pratice
> > > and Ethics that can be followed by all potential CRSs. We have worked
> > on
> > > this a bit and will be soon putting up a basic draft on this group for
> > all
> > > of you to suggest and comment.
> > >
> > > The CRF held meetings outside the formal space of consultation to
> > discuss
> > > the possibilities of regional consultations. We are very to say that
> > > several
> > > organizations came forward to express interest and willingness in
> > holding
> > > such consultations. These are:
> > > 1. Drishti, KMVS - for Gujarat, Rajasthan 2. DDS, Dhan Foundation -
> > > Andhra,
> > > TN, Orissa 3. Voices - Karnataka, Kerala 4. AID - Jharkhand, Bihar,
> > Orissa
> > > 5. SUTRA-Himachal Pardesh, Ladakh 6. Ideosync- Uttranchal, UP
> > >
> > > This list is by means is closed or final. /Groups interested to join
> > in
> > > please contact these groups and work together on the agenda, design
> > etc of
> > > the regional meet.
> > >
> > > So friends..a lot of action on CR in the coming few months.
> > >
> > > More later
> > >
> > > In harmony,
> > > Stalin K
> > > Convener, CR Forum
> > > Sent from BlackBerryR on Airtel
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