[Reader-list] Guests in Vedavati's house

Vedavati Jogi vrjogi at hotmail.com
Wed Aug 8 09:53:14 IST 2007

it may appear childish but  i can't help it.
 it is very easy to show liberalism, secularism( not with its true essence, i am talking about typical indian secularism), tolerance towards terrorists when you are not at the receiving end. my husband being a kashmiri pundit, lost his ancestral property in shrinagar, many of his relatives are still staying in refugee camps, (and our secular leaders, filmwalas have not got time in last 18 years to visit those camps),  two of his best friends were gunned down by yasin malik, they were 'punished' by the latter for being members of rss. (please don't say that he worshipped mahatma hence he killed the rss members.)
and if we decide to apply same logic then hindus should also start killing members of muslim league because they partitioned our country. 
all you seculars who keep ridiculing my thoughts on nationalism imagine yourself in the group of kashmiri migrants or 1947 sindhi-punjabi migrants who were advised by mahatma to go back to their motherland and get abused/killed by muslims in pakistan.
and then talk about these sweet/goody-goody principles
> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 14:54:02 +0100> From: sadiafwahidi at yahoo.co.in> Subject: Guests in Vedavati's house> To: vrjogi at hotmail.com; reader-list at sarai.net> > Dear Vedavati> I don't want to offend you, but your analogy sounds> too childish to be taken seriously (although I don't> mean to demean children by saying that!). The complex> history of south Asia cannot be trivialized like that.> Even if we could use this analogy, then, I think our> house has been so huge and so resourceful that it> didn't mind having a few guests from outside taking> refuge in it. And they didn't come as guests - they> came to do trade and business, just as your (and my)> brethren and sistren go to America to becomes NRIs.> Now, once these "outsiders" decided to call it their> home, they are no longer outsiders (whether they are> born here or came from outside). As a matter of fact,> how can even you prove that you are an "insider". Just> because you are a Hindu? > > Having said that, now let's talk about the guests> taking over the house and asking the owners to leave.> Yes, if they do so, it is wrong. (But remember, no one> can claim to be the "original" resident of this house> - its been too damn long to argue on that). So, you> have no authority to ask Shuddha or me to leave the> country if we do not subscribe to the hollow words> called Patriotism and Nationalism.> > I am not commenting on any specific case (such Sanjay> Kak's film, which I haven't seen). But in general, I> believe that the exodus of the pundits from Kashmir is> a sorry affair, and if one has to find a long-term> solution to the Kashmir problem, it must involve the> re-location of Kashmiri pundits safely in their> original homes. But at the same time, the brutality> suffered by the innocent Kashmiri Muslims at the hands> of Indian forces cannot be wished away. And if Kak's> film (or anyone else) does take sides, then it is> bound to lead to this kind of situation. Let us stop> taking sides and come to the middle ground if need to> resolve any of our conficts.> > S.Fatima> > > --- Vedavati Jogi <vrjogi at hotmail.com> wrote:> > > I will try to answer this question, > > > > Imagine a situation, 10 people, say your friends or> > distant relatives come to your house & start staying> > with you, they expect you to accomodate them> > permanently, they expect you to do everything for> > them, they try to do away with your wife's/mother's> > authority & establish their supremacy in the> > kitchen. > > And ultimately they ask you to leave your house &> > take refuge elsewhere.......... Can you afford to be> > liberal in this case? Will you not try to protect> > the rights of your wife/mother?> > Be honest & give me the reply!> > > > These guests are outsiders and you will definitely> > try to throw them out. In a way you are showing> > narrowmindedness but you can't do without that.> > Because that is not in your family's interest.> > > > Same thing is applicable to your nation. > > 'Nationalism means doing everything which is in the> > interest of your country' (e.g killing terrorists in> > Kashmir or flushing out Bangladeshi Muslims from> > Bengal or Assam.)> > > > Still if you say that 'you are neither a nationalist> > nor a patriot' then I am sorry to say so, but you> > have no right to stay in my country! > > > > Vedavati> > > > > > Do you get hundreds of mails everyday? Delete none. Go to http://in.rd.yahoo.com/tagline_mail_9/*https://edit.india.yahoo.com/config/eval_register
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