kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com
Tue Aug 28 19:30:07 IST 2007
1. The provocation was in lashing out at Rashneek AFTER he appreciated your earlier mail. Let it be.
2. Where the films were watched and how they were obtained is of no consequence
3. What I would like to quote you on is your statement that "ALL the viewers... turned out to be SUPPORTIVE OF AZADI AND SELF-DETERMINATION FOR KASHMIR"
Who needs Pakistan and Jihadis to wreck havoc in, destabilise and attack the Unity and Integrity of India. We have the likes of Shaina Anand, Ashok Sukumaran, Saeed Mirza, Abhay Sardesai, Nancy Adajania, Shilpa Phadke, Nikhil Chopra to do it for the Pakistanis and Separatists. Well, according to Shaina Anand at least.
Sanjay Kak has made a successful film. Yasin Malik and other "Azadi" and "hurriyat" separatists must be proud of him
shaina a <kalakamra at gmail.com> wrote:
What am i provoking here? By providing a context to the transcript, I am lying about my desire to calm anxieties?
Sure i can be quoted. But you will need to maintain other facts:
That the said audience watched both The Human Tragedy by Ashok Pandit and Jashn-e-Azadi by Sanjay Kak.
And they watched it in private, amongst friends, in their home.
One film they downloaded in two parts from You tube
and the other was a preview copy they acquired from a journalist in mumbai.
On 8/28/07, Kshmendra Kaul <kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com> wrote: Dear Shaina
Rashneek thanked you for your earlier mail and called it a positive step. The transcript you provided indeed had some interesting views being expressed.
But, you are intent on provoking further exchanges, arn't you Shaina? Your earlier stated desire to "calm anxieties" was just a lie.
My interest is right now centered over your statement:
"..... all the viewers in the room (that watched the films) turned out to be sympathetic and supportive of azadi and self-determination for Kashmir...."
Shaina I presume you have no objection on being quoted that:
"According to Shaina Anand, she alongwith Ashok Sukumaran, Saeed Mirza, Abhay Sardesai, Nancy Adajania, Shilpa Phadke, Nikhil Chopra and all the others present at the 15th Aug, 2007 screening of Sanjay Kak's film Jashn-e-Azadi are 'supportive of azadi and self-determination for Kashmir"
shaina a < kalakamra at gmail.com> wrote:
If it is a positive step, then why are you so triumphant and committed to
getting screenings of JeA stopped. For the past 3 days you've been going on
about a tit for tat rhetoric that has moved from screening vs screening to
making us (the few who are really bothering to digest all this bile) imagine
vile and twisted role playing games.
Just to get some facts straight, all the viewers in the room (that watched
the films) turned out to be sympathetic and supportive of azadi and
self-determination for Kashmir, the apathetic plight of Kashmiri Pandits
portrayed in the first film, (and known to us) notwithstanding.
'Critical discussion' does not mean they hate the film and the filmmaker.
They are individuals with a free will just like yours, and they are engaging
in a conversation with the filmmaker. Try that you wont.
Please do screen the film you chose to promote again and let others do the
same. What is it you fear?
On 8/28/07, rashneek kher wrote:
> Thanks a lot Shaina.A postive step.
> On 8/28/07, shaina a wrote:
> > Dear all,
> > Ashok Pandit's the human tragedy (his earlier avatar of ...and the world
> > remained silent) and
> > Sanjay Kaks jashn-e-azadi and were viewed as a "double-bill" by a group
> > of
> > film enthusiasts recently,
> > on our 60th year of independence.
> > The transcript of a broad and critical discussion that followed, is
> > here:
> > http://chitrakarkhana.kiberpipa.org/azadi/August15_2007_Kashmir.pdf
> > We ofcourse encourage other people to do the same, to calm their
> > anxieties,
> > and to stop scoring empty points
> > by shouting. Soon, we hope, the internet and other worldly forces will
> > make
> > these films broadly available.
> > best,
> > --
> > shaina
> > chitrakarkhana.net
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