[Reader-list] Reply to junaid mails on Invasion of Indian culture

inder salim indersalim at gmail.com
Sat Oct 13 00:04:57 IST 2007


Please allow me to reflect your ( and other such ) conversation a
little differently :

I quote Aga Shahid Ali  " If only somehow you could have been mine,
what would not have been possible in the world "  Momin  Khan Momin
says the same thing like this: Tum Maray Kisi Tarah Na Huya, Varna
Dunia Mein Kay Nahi Hota.

 I am writing this to myself as well.   I am not bitter, but I am
wondering how to arrive at a point when I ( we ) can break the maze of
mirrors ( enabling the Bruce Lee to break the IMAGE ) and restore the
real. Perhaps, things have not become so critical as yet. Still it
looks a game played by words alone.

Now see, Aga Shahid again… but he is vigorously churning the few
chosen words in order to get something out this churning, not the
meaning, but to realize that the being is moving along with words… to
somewhere, perhaps in a single direction, which is so rare, which the
poet knows deep down….but to realize…self/other :

Iqbal in Sara Jahan say accha :  AYE ABI ROODAY GANGA….WOH DIN HAI YAAD TUJ KO….

This is again from  Aga  Shahid's famous poem ' farewell '
" My memory is again in the way of your history "   " Your history
gets in the way of my memory "  " Your memory gets in the way of my
memory "   " My memory keeps getting in the way of your history"

Now what is this hysterical dance of the same set of words, if not the
inner pain to locate the troubled 'self' in our collective history
that presently tends to negate the existence of the very being,
located in the other…

Now who is the oppressor, it must be within us, too, embedded within,
deeply, who worships the  false gods. So do we have an axe to grind ?

Yes,  but see how a great poet like Ghalib profoundly confesses,
perhaps at the end of his life when he saw everything crumbling during
the ruthless rule of British after 1857.

Kaay woh Nimrod ki Khudayee thee, Bandgee mein mara bhala na huva.
( worshiping false gods was a mistake, it naturally robed me from my
spirituality)

Meanwhile, please continue talking about the past history in
Kashmir…but please listen  the Co-winner of this year's Noble Peace
Dr. Rajinder K. Pachuria " India is doing very little towards
environment "

If we give very little attention to such uttering, then what kind of
India is there which are proud of ? And if we are still obsessed with
that old romantic form of Nation State, ( governed by  thousand of
Nimrods ) then what is the meaning of other, history of other, memory
of  the other. Is Islam still an outsider to the real of India ? If so
then I must quote Aga Shahid Ali once again :

AT A CERTAIN POINT I  LOST TRACK OF YOU.

 indersalim







On 10/12/07, we wi <dhatr1i at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Junaid,
>
>            Though people are busy in false accusations,interpretations and assaults on INDIA, Its culture and to support this there is no need to argue endlessly, but to enlighten people like you  who are doing intentionally,   I am writing this again.
>
>                I used enlighten because either
>
>                      1) You don't know about Indian history and culture-- to support this is I prefer to use your earlier comments on PEACOCK THROWN.   I request you to go through http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koh-i-Noor,
>                      2) If you spread rumors purposefully, then I remind you that you will not succeed like Pakistan and China.  Indian heritage is rich and culture is widespread across the globe.  Every HINDU home contain, atleast few ancestral,cultural,spiritual,traditional wealths/residue whatever you say.
>
>                        From the beginning of its origin to the present, ISLAM produced violence that is the fact though its unfortunate and so as people. So violent in thoughts leave 1/2 exceptional cases for whatever reasons .  You can say whatever but ISLAM IS MIGRATION TO INDIA. Please just keep it in mind.
>
>   Regards,
>   Dhatri.
>
>
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