[Reader-list] Are these humans nationalists?
Vetrivel Adhimoolam
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Mon Jan 21 12:30:06 IST 2008
I have gained lot from this list, but lately it has been increasingly
hijacked by religious fundamentalists and henceforth I have decided to opt
out.
----- Original Message -----
From: chanchal malviya
To: Krishna Chaithanya
Cc: reader-list at sarai.net
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 1:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Are these humans nationalists?
I dont know how you understand 'Maya'... Your words let me feel that you
think Maya is Illusion... You are very preliminary in its understanding
man.... To brief in one line it goes as...
Maya is Trigun (Sattva, Rajas and Tamas)... and it is these three attributes
of nature that is eneveloping the creatures... and the holder of these
attributes is termed as Maya.. English word Illusion cannot describe it...
So, the duty is to attain the Sattva and even beyond... as Sattva is also
not free from attainment of results.. recoprocal (action and reaction) are
attribute of all three attribute of Maya and that is the rule of Maya...
So please understand again the book... And be dutiful... you cannot say
what is future.. but you must say what is right and wrong and what is your
duty... You must do it..
And your first duty is to protect the nation from the hands of Abusers...
Nation is your mother, and you may allow your mothers's abuse.. I cannot...
----- Original Message ----
From: Krishna Chaithanya <tulunadu at hotmail.com>
To: chanchal malviya <chanchal_malviya at yahoo.com>
Cc: reader-list at sarai.net
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 11:54:30 AM
Subject: RE: [Reader-list] Are these humans nationalists?
Dear Chanchal,
Lord krishna has preached so many things. He also wanted the world to
understand what MAYA is all about. If a Hindu scholar who has digested
thousands of holy books and still doesn't understand the meaning of MAYA.
What can poor Krishna do...!?
KC
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 21:24:35 -0800
From: chanchal_malviya at yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Are these humans nationalists?
To: tulunadu at hotmail.com; pawan.durani at gmail.com; asitredsalute at gmail.com
CC: reader-list at sarai.net
You are absolutely correct now Mr. Krishna..
Kashmir was never a Hindu region... It was only before Mughal invasion..
And I don't understand... Do you know what Lord Krishna has preached in
Geeta... What he himself did...
You don't understand the depth of your own name..
Give me chance and I will let you know
(If you are not a dummy Hindu here)...
----- Original Message ----
From: Krishna Chaithanya <tulunadu at hotmail.com>
To: Pawan Durani <pawan.durani at gmail.com>; Asit asitreds
<asitredsalute at gmail.com>
Cc: reader-list <reader-list at sarai.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 11:55:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Are these humans nationalists?
"It is a historical fact that Kashmir has been intolerant towards hindus
since last almost 1000 years and there have been more than 8 major exodus
ofKashmiri pandits ".
Does that mean that Kashmir was never a Hindu Country...!? What are you
saying Pawan?
KC
> Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 22:43:38 +0530
> From: pawan.durani at gmail.com
> To: asitredsalute at gmail.com
> CC: reader-list at sarai.net
> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Are these humans nationalists?
>
> Dear Mr Asit ,
>
> I just wanted to clarify that the word Kashmiriat was used very cleaverly
> by
> Kashmiri Muslim leaders to hide the atrocities on Kashmiri Hindus.
>
> It is a historical fact that Kashmir has been intolerant towards hindus
> since last almost 1000 years and there have been more than 8 major exodus
> of
> Kashmiri pandits .
>
> Regards
>
> Pawan Durani
>
>
> On 1/20/08, Asit asitreds <asitredsalute at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > lets not communalise the kashmir scene with talking about pandits and
> > muslims what is imporatnt is kasmiriyat ant the national liberation of
> > kashmir it is a occcupied territory of both pakistan and india we make a
> > big
> > scene about pandits what about thousands of kasmiri youth killed by the
> > indian army the tortures the rapes and the natinal indignination of
> > kasmir
> > its not a question of hindus or muslims but the colonisation of kasmir
> > by
> > india and pakistan
> >
> > asit
> >
> >
> > On 1/20/08, radhikarajen at vsnl.net <radhikarajen at vsnl.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > Same is the case when Theesta and the likes with "secular" media claim
> > > "thousands of " muslims bucthered in Gujarath, but who bothers about
> > truth
> > > when one can get saudi riyals to defend the traitors of the nation
> > > with
> > > highly paid "criminal" lawyers. ?
> > > In riot both hindus and muslims loose their beloved, many lives are
> > lost,
> > > but this has origin in creating the Pakistan and then not encouraging
> > the
> > > indian muslims to go the land and nation they created for faith, after
> > > promising to live in India like brothers to their society. ?
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Wali Arifi <waliarifi3 at gmail.com>
> > > Date: Saturday, January 19, 2008 11:58 pm
> > > Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Are these humans nationalists?
> > > To: reader-list <reader-list at sarai.net>
> > >
> > > > Dear all,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Last two decades of turbulence in Kashmir have taught us many
> > > > lessons. One
> > > > being that there is always a tendency to exaggerate figures when
> > > > it comes to
> > > > human loss.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > But accuracy is always useful, and doesn't reduce the loss. In
> > > > fact accuracy
> > > > adds to the dignity of those who have suffered the loss. In essence
> > > > multiplying figures is reflective of a tendency to take refuge in
> > > > propagandaand cloth the truth with it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mr Durrani in his post has said: "….for killing of more than 3000
> > > > Kashmiripandits. Not to talk of rape and arson against this
> > > > community."
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I wonder where this figure of "3000" has come from? What is Mr
> > > > Durrani
> > > > trying to prove or achieve by multiplying the number of killings?
> > > > Is he
> > > > helping the community by exaggerating the figure?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > According to the Jammu and Kashmir government, 208 Kashmiri
> > > > pandits were
> > > > killed in the state from 1990 to 2006.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It has to be understood that multiplying figures is dangerously
> > > > counterproductive for those who call themselves as the champions and
> > > > custodians of the interest of Kashmiri Pandits. Forget about the
> > > > use of
> > > > words like genocide, holocaust, pogrom, ethnic cleansing and so
> > > > on...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Kashmir's history will be written by those who have dreamed of a
> > > > 'just
> > > > Kashmir'.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Let it be asked to Mr Durrani... Is he writing history, or trying
> > > > to create
> > > > it to suite a program that translates 'democracy' into what it has
> > > > actuallybeen in all practice... **Majoritarianism.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Wali
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