[Reader-list] Amaranth Land Issue

radhikarajen at vsnl.net radhikarajen at vsnl.net
Fri Jul 4 14:38:28 IST 2008


IN THE LIGHTER VEIN..........


    Tapas, just as it was time for the midday lunch, it was amusing to see the persons who were so ingloriously called names such as dogs and beggars for the univited dinner for Sonia  pleasure by Salman Khurshid and Ambika Soni, a few years ago, are today VIPs visiting the sonia court as courtesans Like Jayanthi, nondescript spokesperson of rootless wonder, speak of principled stand of the party.! Now that the barking dogs never bite is proved, laughing hyenas have descended on the royal court for scavenging the crumbs.?

   Regards.

----- Original Message -----
From: Tapas Ray <tapasrayx at gmail.com>
Date: Friday, July 4, 2008 2:17 am
Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Amaranth Land Issue
To: sarai list <reader-list at sarai.net>

> Radhika,
> 
> Here's how I see things.
> 
> I agree if you mean that the parties you call "pseudo-secular" use 
> communal sentiments for narrow political gain. However, they do 
> this not 
> just with religion but also with other identity factors like 
> language, 
> ethnicity, and caste, according to taste. This sets them apart 
> from the 
> BJP to some extent. But only to some extent, because I think the 
> BJP too 
> would not, and probably does not, give up a chance to use those 
> other 
> identities. It is probably just a question of degree.
> 
> However, this does not put the BJP, and the Parivar in general, in 
> the 
> same category as those parties, because unlike those, these are 
> exclusionary, supremacist, feed on anti-minority paranoia, have 
> institutionalised violence (think of the RSS shakhas), and used it 
> on a 
> scale probably not reached by the "pseudo-seculars".
> 
> The BJP (as a representative of the Parivar) may or may not have 
> been 
> better or worse than the "pseudo-seculars" in specific instances 
> of 
> governance, but even a "better performance", however defined, can 
> never 
> be its claim to power as long as the above are true.
> 
> Last but not the least, before thinking about Lalbahadur Shastri's 
> death, etc., we should recall the Gandhi assassination, which we 
> tend to 
> forget but never should. Unless the BJP and the Parivar openly 
> admit 
> that their role has been extremely harmful for the country, and 
> give up 
> their Hindutva ideology in both theory and practice, they will 
> continue 
> to be an anomaly in our democratic system.
> 
> Tapas
> 
> 
> 
> 
> radhikarajen at vsnl.net wrote:
> >  Very correct, those who say they are secular are actually seen 
> very communal in day to day governance, but it is funny that if 
> BJP unites all in the nation it is called communal just because 
> united hindu votes would be more of potent force. ?
> > 
> >  As to administration of religious places it should be noted 
> that rich funds of dioceses of any denomination of christian faith 
> has absolutely no control as how it is used. recent news of about 
> the priest of an evangelist was bashed up by his own commune in 
> kerala, accounts were asked for 1499 crores misused by him. This 
> news appeared in all the print but not in visual media. !
> > 
> >  Regards.
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Tapas Ray <tapasrayx at gmail.com>
> 
> >> Radhika,
> >>
> >> You did not get my point. I was saying exactly the opposite of 
> >> what you 
> >> thought I was saying. My point was that Prakash Ray should be 
> the 
> >> last 
> >> person to say that the government of J&K ought to get out of 
> the 
> >> wakf 
> >> board/temple trust business.
> >>
> >> But I am not surprised, because he has done similar things in 
> the 
> >> past - 
> >> spoken fiery words against Modi's "right-wing economic 
> policies" 
> >> if I 
> >> remember correctly, while the party he is always defending, 
> namely 
> >> CPI(M), has been condemned on that very issue in the state it 
> >> rules, 
> >> i.e., West Bengal.
> >>
> >> On the present issue, he is suggesting that the J&K government 
> get 
> >> out 
> >> of the wakfs and temple trusts, even though in West Bengal a 
> >> minister 
> >> heads the wakf board, and that board was the focus of an 
> >> investigation 
> >> into a massive scandal a few years ago, involving CPI(M) 
> people. 
> >> You 
> >> will see this if you read the news items I copied below my post.
> >>
> >> Hope this helps.
> >>
> >> Tapas
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