[Reader-list] Amarnath row reignites Azadi sentiments

Aditya Raj Kaul kauladityaraj at gmail.com
Tue Jul 8 11:16:53 IST 2008 

Shivam,
Typical Frustrated Case in respect to knowledge on Kashmir.

Study: Panun Kashmir...

Enjoy.

Aditya


On 7/8/08, Pawan Durani <pawan.durani at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Shivam ,
>
> Pls verify your facts again . And if you want i may eductae you more on
> Panun Kashmir and how it not only for Pandits but for free flow of Indian
> constitution in a would be union territory.
>
> Pawan
>
>
> On 7/7/08, Shivam Vij शिवम् विज् <mail at shivamvij.com> wrote:
> >
> > Inder,
> > Pawan is not interested in grass but blood. He seems to suggest that
> > Kashmir's grass is soaked exclusively with Hindu blood, and the
> > Muslims are happily enoying their picnic on that grass, and the grass
> > has no Muslim blood. In fact Pawan went to Kashmir, the part which
> > Panun Kashmir wants as Pandit zone, and did DNA tests on the grass and
> > has successfully established that Muslim blood never touched it.
> > best
> > shivam
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:29 PM, inder salim <indersalim at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > dear pawan ji
> > >
> > > it looks u are interested in the GRASS only
> > >
> > > i too once had a deep facination of the grass, but time move and i see
> > > there are other things too which can intoxicate
> > >
> > > love
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 8:03 PM, inder salim <indersalim at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >> now POLITICALLY, i see, THERE IS A DEEP MISTRUST BETWEEN HINDUS AND
> > >> MUSLIMS OF JAMMU AND KASHMIR AND YET THERE IS SO MUCH OF TRADE,
> > >> FRIENDSHIP AND HARMONEY AT THE GRASS ROOT LEVEL...but politics seems
> > >> to win in the ends, sadly....
> > >>
> > >> now since this sharp divide has come to the fore, i find this an
> > >> opportunity to doubt the existence of the God.... i dont personally
> > >> want a debate on that.... but we can atleast behaves like SCEPTICS...
> > >> that might perhaps give us a chance to realize the minds of saints
> > >> poets and wise people in the past and in the present...if that had not
> > >> happened they too might not have been there..... even prophets and
> > >> gods have come to to earth because they had the courage to doubt ...
> > >>
> > >> i guess it is this doubt that gives us the idea of universal love....
> > >> strong belief in this or that might finally harm our own undertanding
> > >> of the self...
> > >>
> > >> choice is ours
> > >>
> > >> with love
> > >> inder salim
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 11:31 PM, Pawan Durani <pawan.durani at gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> > >>> And the Jammu news doesnt appeal to the born slaves.
> > >>>
> > >>> On 7/3/08, Shuddhabrata Sengupta <shuddha at sarai.net> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Dear Shivam,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thank you for your reports from the valley. They help us get a
> > >>>> clearer image of the situation and what people are thinking and
> > saying.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> best
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Shuddha
> > >>>> On 03-Jul-08, at 8:33 PM, Shivam Vij शिवम् विज् wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> > [As published this morning]
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > Amarnath row reignites azadi sentiment
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > Shivam Vij / Srinagar
> > >>>> > Sakaal Times / 3 July
> > >>>> > http://epaper.sakaaltimes.com
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > The writing on the wall is clear: The Kashmiri demand for
> > independence
> > >>>> > from India is not over yet. Separatist leaders and commoners alike
> > >>>> > have hailed the withdrawal of the land transfer order as the
> victory
> > >>>> > of the Kashmiri people and called to revitalise the azadi
> movement.
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > This is clearly a turning point in the 20-year-old militant
> > struggle.
> > >>>> > There is also talk of boycotting the coming assembly polls and
> > >>>> > reunification of the two factions of the Hurriyat Conference. The
> > mood
> > >>>> > was reflected in every local daily's frontpage headlines. PEOPLE
> > WIN,
> > >>>> > said Greater Kashmir. Kashmir Savours Victory, said the Kashmir
> > >>>> > Observer. Kashmir win, said Amroze Kashmir. VICTORY! said Etalaat.
> > >>>> > People win, Order revoked, said Kashmir Monitor.
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > The emphasis that it was a people's agitation rather than one of
> > >>>> > leaders is shared by everyone. The sentiment is shared by every
> taxi
> > >>>> > driver, shopkeeper, houseboat-owner, journalist — too widespread
> > >>>> > to be
> > >>>> > brushed away as anybody's political gimmick. The agitation was
> lead
> > by
> > >>>> > the ACALT committee which had, apart from Hurriyat leaders,
> > apolitical
> > >>>> > religious leaders, representatives from trade and transporters'
> > >>>> > organisation's, the Kashmir Chambers of Commerce and the Bar
> > Council.
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > Vehement support was given by the Valley's Sikhs and most Kashmiri
> > >>>> > Pandit organisations as well. The biggest winner is Hurriyat
> leader
> > >>>> > Syed Ali Shah Geelani, who was the first to begin mobilising the
> > >>>> > public with a signature campaign. In a press conference on
> > Wednesday,
> > >>>> > he emphasised: "This punctures New Delhi's theory that our
> movement
> > is
> > >>>> > standing on Pakistani support," he said, adding, "did you see a
> > single
> > >>>> > agitator using violence?" "The movement lives on in the hearts and
> > >>>> > minds of the people," he told Sakaal Times.
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > The relatively smooth rule of the PDP-Congress coalition and the
> > >>>> > decline in militancy had led observers to believe that people's
> > >>>> > participation in polls could increase. "Nobody will vote now,"
> said
> > >>>> > Etalaat editor Zahiruddin. In fact NC's Omar Abdullah is believed
> to
> > >>>> > have said as much to the NSA in his meeting with him in Delhi.
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > "Mainstream politicians in the Valley who believed the movement
> was
> > on
> > >>>> > its deathbed have got a rude jolt," he said. "This is very
> > unpleasant
> > >>>> > for the Indian government and intelligence agencies who were
> already
> > >>>> > talking of a postconflict scenario," says human rights activist
> > Parvez
> > >>>> > Imroz.
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