[Reader-list] Fwd: Sanjay Kak on Ram Guha's Book

Asit asitreds asitredsalute at gmail.com
Sun Mar 9 13:16:46 IST 2008


this has come to ownership and copyright about kashmir i would like to
be enightened who has the copyright to speak on kaskmir
asit

On 3/9/08, Pawan Durani <pawan.durani at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Asit ,
>
> Youn would be perfectly right if you would question "Who is Pawan Durani?"
> for I may be as unknown to you as Sanjay Kak ( Monalisa With A Beard ) is to
> Kashmir and Kashmir issue.
>
> Ask the bearded Monalisa did he have answers to the arguments ? The only
> time he fely happy has been Gorakhpur festival where the reason for his
> happiness was that no one asked him about Pandits .
>
> And that served what he wanted .
>
> For us , the Kashmiri Pandits, he has been a traitor and let Sanjay kak
> admit in this Form , that even his parents are not happy with him.
>
> Partha : I forgot to tell you that the bearded Monalisa is the member of
> this Forum.
>
> Regards
>
> Pawan Durani
>
>
> On 3/8/08, Asit asitreds <asitredsalute at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > dear friends
> > there has to be some grace and decency in public debates name calling
> > is juvenile and obscene as if all the  redears list debaters are nobel
> > prize winners stooping down to the personal under the belt  and
> > disgraceful attack on sanjay kak i ask who is pawan durani
> > any one conscious on social issues knows that sanjay kak is a bold
> > film maker who exposed indian states genocide in kashmir
> > asitOn 3/6/08, Pawan Durani <pawan.durani at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Dear Partha ,
> > >
> > > Let me just ask "Who is Sanjay Kak ?"
> > >
> > > Being honest months before the release of some fiction movie called
> :Jashn -
> > > Kashmir " or something like that , i had a querry from a well known
> lobyist
> > > enquirying about Mr Kak. I pleaded my ignorance.
> > >
> > > And I still dont want to know him , for he has tried to do the largest
> > > damage to a victimised community called Kashmiri Hindus.
> > >
> > > Having said that , i still would like to challenge his knowledge on
> Kashmir
> > > , and would like to have a public , academic and intellectual debate
> with
> > > him. He may bring in his guests like Yasin Malik to support him.
> > >
> > > Last time he met Rashneek at Green Park , he just pleaded ignorance
> about
> > > History.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Pawan Durani
> > >
> > >
> > > On 3/6/08, Partha Dasgupta <parthaekka at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dear Dhatri,
> > > >
> > > > a) As far as Kashmir is concerned, neither Sanjay Kak nor Aditya nor
> > > > Pawan
> > > > are
> > > > loving there. That's precisely why Aditya & Pawan are talking about
> > > > being
> > > > dispossesed and the pain of not living there.
> > > >
> > > > b) Sanjay Kak depicted his point of view as an artist / film maker. If
> > > > anyone disagrees
> > > > they are welcome to make their viewpoint heard. He has merely depicted
> > > > one part
> > > > or view of a status as he sees it.
> > > >
> > > > c) Neither of the above points have anything to do with the current
> > > > debate.
> > > > If you feel
> > > > that there is a lack of veracity in the current debate that is on,
> > > > please respond to
> > > > specific portions with your own references.
> > > >
> > > > Rgds, Partha
> > > > ..................................
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 1:04 PM, we wi <dhatr1i at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The logic is pretty simple and reachable. Sanjay kak produce false
> > > > > facts these people including Sanjay kak knew that they are
> > > > false. Sanjay
> > > > > kak is not a living being of Jammu and Kashmir like Pawan and
> > > > Aditya,.....
> > > > >
> > > > > *Partha Dasgupta <parthaekka at gmail.com>* wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Dear Aditya,
> > > > >
> > > > > That's a bit like asking who's Pawan or Aditya or, for that matter,
> > > > > Partha.
> > > > > None of us on this list know each other yet we still have the
> > > > intellectual
> > > > > honesty to look clearly at a point of view and debate it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Who Sanjay Kak is does not matter. What matters is his point of
> view,
> > > > and
> > > > > if
> > > > > you disagree with it, why?
> > > > >
> > > > > Rgds, Partha
> > > > > .................
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Aditya Raj Kaul
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Good One Pawan. :-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why is an "Intellectual Forum" namely Sarai geting into a
> discussion
> > > > on
> > > > > > some
> > > > > > review written by just another person ? Pawan asks rightly, Who is
> > > > this
> > > > > > Sanjay Kak ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > Aditya Raj Kaul
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 3/5/08, Pawan Durani wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Joke of the day : Kak's review comes like a breath of
> honest,fresh
> > > > > air.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sanjay Kak and being Honest ........I saw snow on Mumbai streets
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 3/5/08, Namrata Kakkar wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Dear everybody,
> > > > > > > > Having read Sanjay Sub's wrong but
> > > > > > > > back patting, ridiculous review on the SARAI list, I
> > > > > > > > was just wondering how could readers at Sarai list
> > > > > > > > tolerate such nonsensical bribery, blind eye
> > > > > > > > stupidity. Kak's review comes like a breath of honest,
> > > > > > > > fresh air. But couldn't Sanjay Sub. himself raise
> > > > > > > > these questions? Infact anybody a bit literate enough
> > > > > > > > would tear this book into shreds; but Sanajy could not
> > > > > > > > do so since Ram Guha is now a new promoter in the
> > > > > > > > Indian circles--mustering and manipulating crores of
> > > > > > > > rupees through his (i.e, Indian) Arts Foundation. Ram
> > > > > > > > guha is a man with book length muscles now.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So even if he continues writing this bull
> > > > > > > > shit, he will be a Sanjay's public historian ( like
> > > > > > > > men love public woman ( sorry). One wonders if he too
> > > > > > > > is aspiring a 50,000 rupees felllowship from Ram Guha.
> > > > > > > > He may...
> > > > > > > > But anyway, thank you SARAI.
> > > > > > > > Namrata
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Note: forwarded message attached.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
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