[Reader-list] Fwd: In Valley, gunmen take to moral policing: ‘enforce hijab in college’

Fri Aug 28 13:52:56 IST 2009

Dear Rashneek,
Wearing a hijab should not ideally be your problem. Let the people speak for
themselves.
-anupam

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 1:36 PM, rashneek kher <rashneek at gmail.com> wrote:

> Havent the barbarians already been there..like Bitta karate who pissed on
> people after he killed them.and those too who some fondly called Sahab who
> rape and chop nurses.
> and then their  apologists .....
>
> rashneek
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Sanjay Kak <kaksanjay at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Wonder why this list feels like a starter's block sometimes, for a race
> > where everybody is planning to run a different length. You know, the 100m
> > sprint, the 400m, the 5000m, the marathon...
> > I mean look at us, here we are, already invoking fears of the
> "barbarians"
> > at the gate, of "mediveal obscrutanist religiou practices - soon
> flogging,
> > killing in football grounds and burning of girls schools"...
> >
> > While the particular Indian Express story, in a style we have all come to
> > recognise, having raised the alarm, attracted the attention of those
> > amongst
> > us whose nerves are on edge anyway, and triggered the sprinters, does a
> > consummate exercise in what I believe the Americans call 'covering ass'.
> > I quote the last paragraph of the story:
> > The Dangiwacha police have filed a case, and are looking at all angles,
> > including one unrelated to militancy. “We are exploring the possible
> > dimension of college rivalry,” said a senior officer who did not want to
> be
> > named. No militant outfit has claimed responsibility for the incident.
> The
> > separatists too have been silent, and are perhaps trying to ascertain if
> > militant groups were involved.
> >
> > Can we hold our horses, or have they bolted from the starters block?
> > Best
> > Sanjay Kak
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: rashneek kher <rashneek at gmail.com>
> > Date: Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 12:40 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Reader-list] In Valley, gunmen take to moral policing:
> > ‘enforce hijab in college’
> >  To: anupam chakravartty <c.anupam at gmail.com>
> > Cc: sarai list <reader-list at sarai.net>
> >
> >
> > Dear Anupam,
> >
> > Well I am not confusing anything with anything.There is a history on this
> > network where people have called barbarians like Sikander Butshikan and
> > Syed
> > mohd.Hamdani divinely ordained dervishes and incidentally these are
> people
> > who claim to have Marxist if not Moaist ideologies.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Rashneek
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 12:07 PM, anupam chakravartty <
> c.anupam at gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Dear Rashneek,
> > > "They would cleanse the society by imposing purity on the inhabitants
> and
> > > the sly shadows of Mao would cheer them and call them dervishes oops
> > > divinely ordained dervishes."
> > >
> > > I think you are confusing Talibanisation with Marxism and Maoism. If
> the
> > > so-called "armed" gunmen threatened the college principal, as the
> reports
> > > stated, to which he opposed and said:  "he would not be cowed by the
> > threat
> > > and would continue to do his work at the college" and also the fact he
> is
> > a
> > > specialist in greatest Islamic revivalist of our times, Sayyid Qutb
> (who
> > > the
> > > neo-liberal sorts think that because of his criticism of the American
> way
> > > of
> > > life has helped in shaping of al-qaeda) then there is an inherent
> > > contradiction in your claims about dervishes. here we have someone who
> is
> > > specialist, who is opposed to imposition of hijab. i think i would
> > > appreciate the principal's stand.
> > > - thanks
> > > anupam
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:26 AM, rashneek kher <rashneek at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Dear All,
> > > >
> > > > A story done by Indian Express on the Islamist Icons(Robin Hoods of
> our
> > > > friends) imposing Hijab and threating Prinicipals of Colleges by
> > burning
> > > > their cars.
> > > > How I wonder would Taliban control the land that once infidelds lived
> > > > in.They would cleanse the society by imposing purity on the
> inhabitants
> > > and
> > > > the sly shadows of Mao would cheer them and call them dervishes oops
> > > > divinely ordained dervishes.Their divine powers derived from mediveal
> > > > obscrutanist religiou practices-soon flogging,killing in football
> > grounds
> > > > and burning of girls schools would be the order of day.And our
> Marxist
> > > > demi-icons would sing paeans to the piety of the new age dervishes.
> > > > It may also be worthwhile to mention that the leaders of the "azadi"
> > > today
> > > > have done exactly this when they "were a part of the armed
> > struggle".For
> > > > the
> > > > proponents of jihad and their supporters...from Riyaz Wani
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >  In Valley, gunmen take to moral policing: ‘enforce hijab in college’
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  In the first such incident in the Valley since the decline of
> > militancy
> > > > started two years ago, masked gunmen waylaid the principal of a North
> > > > Kashmir college, destroyed his car, and gave him a three-day
> ultimatum
> > to
> > > > ensure the 3,000 girl students in his institution began wearing the
> > > hijab.
> > > >
> > > >  The principal, Muhammad Ashraf, a respected Islamic scholar, told
> The
> > > > Indian Express today that he would not be cowed by the threat and
> would
> > > > continue to do his work at the college.
> > > >
> > > >  Ashraf said seven men stopped his car — in which he was riding with
> > his
> > > > son
> > > > and a local acquaintance — near his village at Dangiwacha, and
> > > commandeered
> > > > the vehicle over a dirt track into a thicket of bushes. “They wore
> > masks
> > > > and
> > > > dark glasses and were heavily armed with Kalashnikovs, pistols and
> > > > grenades,” Ashraf said.
> > > >
> > > >  According to the principal, the men appeared to know a lot about
> him:
> > > that
> > > > he was a specialist on Sayyid Qutb — the Egyptian Islamist political
> > > > theorist and leading intellectual of the Muslim Brotherhood in the
> 50s
> > > and
> > > > 60s who is thought to be one of the philosophical progenitors of Al
> > Qaeda
> > > —
> > > > and that he had been trying to enforce discipline in his college.
> > > >
> > > > “You have taken some really good steps in the college like banning
> > > smoking
> > > > and cellphones. Now, you must do something that we want you to do.
> > > Enforce
> > > > an Islamic dress code for girl students,” Ashraf said the men told
> him.
> > > > They
> > > > gave him three days to carry out their diktat, failing which they
> would
> > > > “act”, they said.
> > > >
> > > > Ashraf’s college, Degree College, Sopore, has around 7,000 students
> on
> > > its
> > > > rolls, 3,000 of whom are girls. It is among the largest colleges in
> the
> > > > state.
> > > >
> > > > “They told me that they had picked me to send a message to all other
> > > > schools
> > > > and colleges in the Valley in which girls study,” Ashraf said.
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps to rattle the principal and send the message that they meant
> > > > business, the gunmen set his vehicle on fire. Ashraf and his
> companions
> > > > were
> > > > released after about two hours in captivity.
> > > >
> > > > The Dangiwacha police have filed a case, and are looking at all
> angles,
> > > > including one unrelated to militancy. “We are exploring the possible
> > > > dimension of college rivalry,” said a senior officer who did not want
> > to
> > > be
> > > > named.
> > > >
> > > > No militant outfit has claimed responsibility for the incident. The
> > > > separatists too have been silent, and are perhaps trying to ascertain
> > if
> > > > militant groups were involved.
> > > >
> > > > Senior Superintendent of Police Viplav Kumar said a hunt was on for
> the
> > > > gunmen. “We are trying our best. Hopefully, we will crack the case
> > soon,”
> > > > he
> > > > said.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> http://www.indianexpress.com/news/in-valley-gunmen-take-to-moral-policing-enforce-hijab-in-college/507208/0
> > > >
> > > > best
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Rashneek Kher
> > > > http://www.kashmiris-in-exile.blogspot.com
> > > > http://www.nietzschereborn.blogspot.com
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> Rashneek Kher
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