[Reader-list] Fwd: In Valley, gunmen take to moral policing: ‘enforce hijab in college’

taraprakash taraprakash at gmail.com
Fri Aug 28 19:29:15 IST 2009 

"Let the people speak for
> themselves."
Now, what people are we talking about? Have women been given any say in 
their matters in this world? And if one should not speak against unless it 
is ideally one's problem, then the issues of Shopian, that of Iran, the 
excesses of US in various parts of the world should not find any space on 
this list. Let me remind those who will allow the thugs anything if they are 
doing in the name of Islam and to those who think that human rights 
violation is done only by the Indian "security forces" and by no one else, 
that the history of Kashmiri freedom struggle has seen in the past the most 
barbarian kind of human rights violation by the so-called freedom fighters. 
Intellectuals have been murdered for not saying things that certain "freedom 
fighters" wanted them to say. Women have been thrown acid upon for not 
wearing hijab or for being seen without a chaperon in the public. People 
have been mercilessly massacred for just the crime of not belonging to 
Islam. The children have been abducted to be trained as fighters, and the 
list goes on. And thanks to the time when some of these groups were 
competing against each other in barbarity, they took responsibilities for 
such acts. Otherwise, they too would have been attributed to the "security 
forces".

Such people who force women to do their bidding, no matter who they are, 
must be dealt with not only in Kashmir but elsewhere too; not with in 
Kashmir but from outside too.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "anupam chakravartty" <c.anupam at gmail.com>
To: "sarai list" <reader-list at sarai.net>
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 4:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Reader-list]Fwd: In Valley, gunmen take to moral policing: 
‘enforce hijab in college’


> Dear Rashneek,
> Wearing a hijab should not ideally be your problem. Let the people speak 
> for
> themselves.
> -anupam
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 1:36 PM, rashneek kher <rashneek at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Havent the barbarians already been there..like Bitta karate who pissed on
>> people after he killed them.and those too who some fondly called Sahab 
>> who
>> rape and chop nurses.
>> and then their  apologists .....
>>
>> rashneek
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Sanjay Kak <kaksanjay at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Wonder why this list feels like a starter's block sometimes, for a race
>> > where everybody is planning to run a different length. You know, the 
>> > 100m
>> > sprint, the 400m, the 5000m, the marathon...
>> > I mean look at us, here we are, already invoking fears of the
>> "barbarians"
>> > at the gate, of "mediveal obscrutanist religiou practices - soon
>> flogging,
>> > killing in football grounds and burning of girls schools"...
>> >
>> > While the particular Indian Express story, in a style we have all come 
>> > to
>> > recognise, having raised the alarm, attracted the attention of those
>> > amongst
>> > us whose nerves are on edge anyway, and triggered the sprinters, does a
>> > consummate exercise in what I believe the Americans call 'covering 
>> > ass'.
>> > I quote the last paragraph of the story:
>> > The Dangiwacha police have filed a case, and are looking at all angles,
>> > including one unrelated to militancy. “We are exploring the possible
>> > dimension of college rivalry,” said a senior officer who did not want 
>> > to
>> be
>> > named. No militant outfit has claimed responsibility for the incident.
>> The
>> > separatists too have been silent, and are perhaps trying to ascertain 
>> > if
>> > militant groups were involved.
>> >
>> > Can we hold our horses, or have they bolted from the starters block?
>> > Best
>> > Sanjay Kak
>> >
>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > From: rashneek kher <rashneek at gmail.com>
>> > Date: Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 12:40 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [Reader-list] In Valley, gunmen take to moral policing:
>> > ‘enforce hijab in college’
>> >  To: anupam chakravartty <c.anupam at gmail.com>
>> > Cc: sarai list <reader-list at sarai.net>
>> >
>> >
>> > Dear Anupam,
>> >
>> > Well I am not confusing anything with anything.There is a history on 
>> > this
>> > network where people have called barbarians like Sikander Butshikan and
>> > Syed
>> > mohd.Hamdani divinely ordained dervishes and incidentally these are
>> people
>> > who claim to have Marxist if not Moaist ideologies.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > Rashneek
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 12:07 PM, anupam chakravartty <
>> c.anupam at gmail.com
>> > >wrote:
>> >
>> > > Dear Rashneek,
>> > > "They would cleanse the society by imposing purity on the inhabitants
>> and
>> > > the sly shadows of Mao would cheer them and call them dervishes oops
>> > > divinely ordained dervishes."
>> > >
>> > > I think you are confusing Talibanisation with Marxism and Maoism. If
>> the
>> > > so-called "armed" gunmen threatened the college principal, as the
>> reports
>> > > stated, to which he opposed and said:  "he would not be cowed by the
>> > threat
>> > > and would continue to do his work at the college" and also the fact 
>> > > he
>> is
>> > a
>> > > specialist in greatest Islamic revivalist of our times, Sayyid Qutb
>> (who
>> > > the
>> > > neo-liberal sorts think that because of his criticism of the American
>> way
>> > > of
>> > > life has helped in shaping of al-qaeda) then there is an inherent
>> > > contradiction in your claims about dervishes. here we have someone 
>> > > who
>> is
>> > > specialist, who is opposed to imposition of hijab. i think i would
>> > > appreciate the principal's stand.
>> > > - thanks
>> > > anupam
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:26 AM, rashneek kher <rashneek at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Dear All,
>> > > >
>> > > > A story done by Indian Express on the Islamist Icons(Robin Hoods of
>> our
>> > > > friends) imposing Hijab and threating Prinicipals of Colleges by
>> > burning
>> > > > their cars.
>> > > > How I wonder would Taliban control the land that once infidelds 
>> > > > lived
>> > > > in.They would cleanse the society by imposing purity on the
>> inhabitants
>> > > and
>> > > > the sly shadows of Mao would cheer them and call them dervishes 
>> > > > oops
>> > > > divinely ordained dervishes.Their divine powers derived from 
>> > > > mediveal
>> > > > obscrutanist religiou practices-soon flogging,killing in football
>> > grounds
>> > > > and burning of girls schools would be the order of day.And our
>> Marxist
>> > > > demi-icons would sing paeans to the piety of the new age dervishes.
>> > > > It may also be worthwhile to mention that the leaders of the 
>> > > > "azadi"
>> > > today
>> > > > have done exactly this when they "were a part of the armed
>> > struggle".For
>> > > > the
>> > > > proponents of jihad and their supporters...from Riyaz Wani
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > > >  In Valley, gunmen take to moral policing: ‘enforce hijab in 
>> > > > college’
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >  In the first such incident in the Valley since the decline of
>> > militancy
>> > > > started two years ago, masked gunmen waylaid the principal of a 
>> > > > North
>> > > > Kashmir college, destroyed his car, and gave him a three-day
>> ultimatum
>> > to
>> > > > ensure the 3,000 girl students in his institution began wearing the
>> > > hijab.
>> > > >
>> > > >  The principal, Muhammad Ashraf, a respected Islamic scholar, told
>> The
>> > > > Indian Express today that he would not be cowed by the threat and
>> would
>> > > > continue to do his work at the college.
>> > > >
>> > > >  Ashraf said seven men stopped his car — in which he was riding 
>> > > > with
>> > his
>> > > > son
>> > > > and a local acquaintance — near his village at Dangiwacha, and
>> > > commandeered
>> > > > the vehicle over a dirt track into a thicket of bushes. “They wore
>> > masks
>> > > > and
>> > > > dark glasses and were heavily armed with Kalashnikovs, pistols and
>> > > > grenades,” Ashraf said.
>> > > >
>> > > >  According to the principal, the men appeared to know a lot about
>> him:
>> > > that
>> > > > he was a specialist on Sayyid Qutb — the Egyptian Islamist 
>> > > > political
>> > > > theorist and leading intellectual of the Muslim Brotherhood in the
>> 50s
>> > > and
>> > > > 60s who is thought to be one of the philosophical progenitors of Al
>> > Qaeda
>> > > —
>> > > > and that he had been trying to enforce discipline in his college.
>> > > >
>> > > > “You have taken some really good steps in the college like banning
>> > > smoking
>> > > > and cellphones. Now, you must do something that we want you to do.
>> > > Enforce
>> > > > an Islamic dress code for girl students,” Ashraf said the men told
>> him.
>> > > > They
>> > > > gave him three days to carry out their diktat, failing which they
>> would
>> > > > “act”, they said.
>> > > >
>> > > > Ashraf’s college, Degree College, Sopore, has around 7,000 students
>> on
>> > > its
>> > > > rolls, 3,000 of whom are girls. It is among the largest colleges in
>> the
>> > > > state.
>> > > >
>> > > > “They told me that they had picked me to send a message to all 
>> > > > other
>> > > > schools
>> > > > and colleges in the Valley in which girls study,” Ashraf said.
>> > > >
>> > > > Perhaps to rattle the principal and send the message that they 
>> > > > meant
>> > > > business, the gunmen set his vehicle on fire. Ashraf and his
>> companions
>> > > > were
>> > > > released after about two hours in captivity.
>> > > >
>> > > > The Dangiwacha police have filed a case, and are looking at all
>> angles,
>> > > > including one unrelated to militancy. “We are exploring the 
>> > > > possible
>> > > > dimension of college rivalry,” said a senior officer who did not 
>> > > > want
>> > to
>> > > be
>> > > > named.
>> > > >
>> > > > No militant outfit has claimed responsibility for the incident. The
>> > > > separatists too have been silent, and are perhaps trying to 
>> > > > ascertain
>> > if
>> > > > militant groups were involved.
>> > > >
>> > > > Senior Superintendent of Police Viplav Kumar said a hunt was on for
>> the
>> > > > gunmen. “We are trying our best. Hopefully, we will crack the case
>> > soon,”
>> > > > he
>> > > > said.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> http://www.indianexpress.com/news/in-valley-gunmen-take-to-moral-policing-enforce-hijab-in-college/507208/0
>> > > >
>> > > > best
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > > Rashneek Kher
>> > > > http://www.kashmiris-in-exile.blogspot.com
>> > > > http://www.nietzschereborn.blogspot.com
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>> --
>> Rashneek Kher
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>> http://www.nietzschereborn.blogspot.com
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