[Reader-list] India's ID project catches fancy of US lawmakers- 163
Patrice Riemens
patrice at xs4all.nl
Sun Jul 26 14:50:41 IST 2009
More comments from Eduard de Jong (HFH) on the Indian ID scheme.
reposted with permission.
Cheers, p+2D!
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Subject: Re: [discussion] [Fwd: [Reader-list] India's ID project catches
fancy of US lawmakers- 163]
From: "Eduard de Jong" <info at dejongfrz.nl>
Date: Sun, July 26, 2009 11:05
To: discussion at hippiesfromhell.org
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The figures and time-scale and budget for issuing
these cards in India seems a complete fantasy.
At present it may be possible to by 1.2 Bilion
cards at $1 per card, although that will require
a lot of negotiating... Total world market for
2008 was 5.4 Billion, of which 65% goes into GSM
phones and 3%!! for government projects
(<http://www.eurosmart.com/index.php/publications/market-overview.html>)...
To me it is unclear where the Indian program
could actually procure such a large quantity
(20%!!!, 7 times the used capacity for this
market segment of last year) of chips/cards and
also have them delivered to you over the planned
3 month issuing period...
It seems absurd to think that the local Indian
production capacity will be able to handle such a
volume. The largest card manufacturers are in
France (no1, no3) Germany (no2) and China...
together these companies provide over 70% of the
world market.
A similar issue is the capacity to personalize
the chips, that is write the individual citizen
data in the chip memory and print the outside:
Atop range machine can do 7000 cards an hour:
such a machine does 15M cards in 3 month
(assuming it is operational 7*24 for the full
period, highly unlikely). The totall
personalization capacity required would be 1000
of such machines, at least..... I'm sure the
German!! manufacturers of such machines will be
happy to fulfill such an order..... Not sure how
many months pr maybe years!!! that will take....
As to the costs, the cost of issuing the card is
not in manufacturing the chip+card it is in
gathering the data for personalization and
actually handing them out to the INTENDED
recipient. Just only think of all the incorrect
addresses that must be present in the citizen
database: if that is 5% (extremely low) 60Million
cards have to be hand processed for correction.
Add to that the handling of other incorrect data,
and an average figure of 15$ per card may be
realistic yet low estimate of the issuing costs!
Net effect it will be at least 10 times as
expensive!!!
And likely it will take 3 years to complete. For
instance in Germany they plan a full year to
issue 60Million new healthcare (insured) cards,
with initial trial issuance in one state over a 3
month period with a planning for evaluation and
possible adjustments.
Of-course, India can do this on-a-shoestring,
rushing cards out, ignoring data errors etc, and
maybe this way the cost overrun can be limited to
3 times the estimate, and issuance completed in a
year. Then again, this also makes the whole
exercise utterly useless, as an unknown fraction
of the cards are incorrect: The cards will not be
a reliable citizen id card, and those institution
needing such reliable identity will ask for
complementary documents.
India may have a centralized database of all its
citizens and use that to make the personalization
data for the ID cards, the USA certainly has not.
In the USA the most reliable source of citizen
data is the state issued drivers licence. Many
states use different IT systems, different data,
different formats, so creating a consistent data
set as input to card personalization will be a
huge technical effort. And require a lot of
political will. Even so, the reliabilyo of this
data is relatively low, as it has not been
collected for the purpose of identification...
The Bush government, AFAIK, introduced measures
to make individual states enhance the data
collection for drivers licences, in an attempt to
establish a de-facto national ID. Not sure how
well these initiatives have fared....
Finally once more on technology: the card
intended for use is based on the SCOSTA card mask
(some people call that an OS, i don't) which is
basically a fixed function, static data-model
application card. It does not support in-field
application management. Changing functions, or
replacing broken cryptography or adding
applications wont be possible other than by
reissuance all cards. Even if the first issuance
does not become a financial and logistic debacle
it is now heading for, who-scale reissuance will
be a very hard sell, politically..... Without
such update capacity the issued cards are doomed
for technical obsoleteness within 5 years....
Oh, and i haven't seen anything about stepping
stepping up the IT support infrastructure to
support 1.2 Billion users of it devices, of which
likely over 20% will fail in each year requiring
support actions ranging from holding hands in
use, modifying card data to reissuance of the
card. A smart card is an IT device not a piece of
paper that does not require maintenance.... I
guess, maybe they count on local governments to
fill the gaps when angry citizens start
complaining.
In Japan, the citizen id card program has
recognized this need for flexibility, and the
card's functions are planned to be upgraded and
modified, possibly with per prefecture different
functions. The central government specifies and
controls a small application and issuance is
delegated to local levels, which also control
additional functions of the card. They went to
the effort of initiating an ISO standard for card
function maintenance (ISO/IEC 7816-13). And
planned this as a long term project, 5+ years:
technical agility of the card is essential on
such a project time frame.
It will be interesting to see how this Indian
id-card project will evolve, certainly it will be
of historic interest: most likely as yet another
example of a failed government IT project.
cheers
Eduard
P.s.
The sad thing is, of course, that in this
interconnected world citizens need a reliable,
privacy protecting credentialing device for their
interactions on the web. None of these conceived
Id-cards get
At 10:10 -0700 24/7/09, Carl Guderian wrote:
>More proof that Senator Cornhole (my other idiot
>Senator) is completely out to lunch.
>
>Even right after 9/11 and before the mess of
>Iraq became too big to hide, and even up to
>Katrina, while the mass media were sniffing
>Bush's codpiece and people were scared enough to
>accept government organs with sinister-sounding
>names like the Department of Homeland Security
>and Total Information Awareness (with its
>eye-in-the-pyramid logo), US citizens still
>didn't go for national ID cards. The Republicans
>got ID requirements passed in various states in
>order to shake down poor (Democratic-leaning)
>voters for 20 bucks, but that's as far as it got.
>
>So the Senator's pushing the idea now, at a time
>when rightwing talkshow hosts are stoking fear
>of the government during the Obama
>administration, and dipshits are threatening to
>secede?
>
>FAIL
>
>
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