[Reader-list] "Hindutva far bigger threat than al-Qaeda" -wikileaks

Fri Dec 10 19:43:02 IST 2010

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Pakistan-papers-apologise-after-running-anti-India-fake-WikiLeaks-cables/articleshow/7075670.cms

On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 7:20 PM, TaraPrakash <taraprakash at gmail.com> wrote:

> This definitely are fake leaks. BBC confirmed that they were released
> possibly by Pakistani army. Javed does a better job of defending fatvas and
> bringing in perspective of likes of Ajiz Barni. Here it was just an
> overzealot paranoiac trying to represent Pakistani discomfort after
> damaging? leaks were released about the greatest violaters of human rights.
> Sorry Javed they were simply fake. I will like to read Barni on leaks
> though.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jhuma Sen" <sen.jhuma at gmail.com>
> To: "Javed" <javedmasoo at gmail.com>
> Cc: "sarai list" <reader-list at sarai.net>
> Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 2:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] "Hindutva far bigger threat than al-Qaeda"
> -wikileaks
>
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> This is possibly a fake news.
>>
>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/09/pakistani-newspaper-fake-leaks-india
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 11:05 PM, Javed <javedmasoo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> WikiLeaks reveals Indian involvement in Balochistan, Waziristan
>>> Thursday, 09 December 2010 04:49 Ahsan Waheed
>>>
>>> WikiLeaks reveals Indian involvement in Balochistan, WaziristanIndian
>>> Army generals in bed with Hindutva Brotherhood; extremism and
>>> incompetency highlights Indian Army top brass, Gen Kapoor a 'geek'
>>> while Gen Singh 'petulant braggadocio'; Concern over security of
>>> India's nuclear assets, more than 80% of Indian assets and missiles in
>>> Naxalite-infested areas; Hemant Karkare seeked security assurances
>>> from US diplomats; Hindutva organizations - Sangh Parivar and Shiv
>>> Sena - more dangerous than Taliban, Al-Qaeda, LeT combined; US should
>>> not hold military drills with India because of human rights violations
>>> in Occupied Kashmir; ISI not involved in any terrorist activity in
>>> India;
>>>
>>> A cable from US Embassy in Islamabad leaked by whistle-blower website
>>> WikiLeaks disclosed that there were enough evidences of Indian
>>> involvement in Waziristan and other tribal areas of Pakistan as well
>>> as Balochistan.
>>>
>>> The Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) chief Ahmed Shuja Pasha’s
>>> extension in services was termed as a good omen in one such cable and
>>> it was added that his further presence on the scene would enhance the
>>> agency’s abilities to combat anti-terror war. The cable confirmed the
>>> active presence of ISI in India but it refused to confirm any
>>> involvement of ISI in any terror incident across India and did confirm
>>> intelligence collection by its agents and operatives.
>>>
>>> An earlier cable ruled out any direct or indirect involvement of ISI
>>> in 26/11 under Pasha’s command while Mumbai’s dossier, based on prime
>>> accused Ajmal Kasab’s confessional statement was termed funny and
>>> “shockingly immature”.
>>>
>>> Leaked cable terms ex-Indian army chief 'a geek'
>>>
>>> WikiLeaks revealed that a cable sent from a US mission in India termed
>>> former Indian Army chief General Deepak Kapoor as an incompetent
>>> combat leader and rather a geek.
>>>
>>> His war doctrine, suggesting eliminating China and Pakistan in a
>>> simultaneous war front was termed as “much far from reality”. Another
>>> cable indicates that General Kapoor was dubbed as a general who was
>>> least bothered about security challenges to the country but was more
>>> concerned about making personal assets and strengthening his own cult
>>> in the army. The cable also suggested that a tug-of-war between Kapoor
>>> and the current Indian Army chief had divided the Indian Army into two
>>> groups.
>>>
>>> Gen Singh called an egotist, self-obsessed, petulant
>>>
>>> General Singh has also been described as “Pakistan, China centric”,
>>> with an added aggression towards China. The cable mentioned General
>>> Singh as an egotist, self-obsessed, petulant and idiosyncratic
>>> general, a braggadocio and a show-off, who has been disliked (and
>>> barely tolerated) by all his subordinates.
>>>
>>> Indian Army committed gross human rights violations in Occupied Kashmir
>>>
>>> An earlier cable described Indian Army involved in gross human rights
>>> violations in Indian-held Kashmir while some Lt Gen HS Panag, the then
>>> GOC-in-Chief of the Northern Command of the Indian Army, was equated
>>> with General Milosevic of Bosnia with regard to butchering Muslims
>>> through war crimes.
>>>
>>> The cable urged Washington to secretly divert UN attention towards the
>>> genocide of innocent civilians in held Kashmir at the hands of Indian
>>> Army and also suggested that US should avoid holding any joint drill
>>> with Indian Army until it stops inhuman activities in Kashmir. The
>>> cable termed one Lt Col AK Mathur as “devil’s advocate” at Srinagar.
>>>
>>> Hindutva Brotherhood far bigger threat than Taliban, al-Qaeda, LeT
>>>
>>> Another cable indicated involvement of top Indian Army leadership in
>>> engaging Hindu extremist militants to carry out certain terror
>>> operations to keep Indian Muslims on the back foot and to keep
>>> pressure on neighbouring Pakistan’s Army and intelligence agencies,
>>> particularly the Inter-Services Intelligence.
>>>
>>> Another cable confirmed that there was a nexus of top Indian Army
>>> officials and extremist Hindu outfits. This cable suggested that an
>>> Indian police officer, a counter-terror specialist with the name of
>>> Hemant Karkare, had exposed this nexus to some extent when he arrested
>>> a serving colonel of Indian army, Lt Colonel Purohit, for blazing a
>>> Pakistan bound train (Samjhota Express).
>>>
>>> The cable suggested that Hemant Karkare held a secret meeting with a
>>> senior US diplomat in New Delhi during the national day reception of a
>>> friendly country and briefed him about the gravity and the growing
>>> depth of the nexus between top Indian Army leadership and the militant
>>> Hindu fanatic groups. Karkare sought security for him and his family
>>> from the said American diplomat as he feared that the army and
>>> establishment would eliminate him as he intended to move further to
>>> expose the network. He had further briefed the said US diplomat that a
>>> former commander-in-chief of the Central Command of the Indian army,
>>> Lt Gen PN Hoon, was heading the militancy wing of the Hindu extremists
>>> and was getting full tactical, logistic and financial support from
>>> senior army officers. The day, Karkare was eliminated in a pre-planned
>>> ambush during the Mumbai attacks, a cable sent to the US read “we have
>>> lost an important link and a vital evidence”.
>>>
>>> Another cable sent to Washington termed Hindutva brotherhood in
>>> general and Shiv Sena in particular, as ticking time bombs with regard
>>> to militancy and terrorism. It was suggested that fundraisers like
>>> Hindu Students Council of America etc should be banned to raise funds
>>> as they were generating funds for the Hindu militant outfits under the
>>> garb of charity. Another file dubs Hindutva Brotherhood as a far
>>> bigger threat to regional and global peace than Taliban, al-Qaeda and
>>> LeT and the later three were declared as “peanuts” if equated with
>>> Hindutva Brotherhood and Sangh Parivaar and Washington was urged to
>>> take up the issue with New Delhi.
>>>
>>> Grave concern over India's nuclear assets and nuclear security
>>>
>>> Another cable expressed grave concern over the Indian government’s
>>> ability to handle Naxal insurgency movement as 80 per cent of Indian
>>> nuclear and missile facilities were present in the insurgency hit
>>> areas of India while the Indian security forces were totally helpless
>>> in ensuring the writ of the government in that particular area, known
>>> as the “Red Corridor of India”.
>>>
>>> Israeli general wanted to attack Iran, Syria nuclear facilities
>>>
>>> A cable sent from Israel described the then Israeli Military
>>> Intelligence chief, Major General Amos Yadlin as an aggressive
>>> general. He was quoted in the cable as a dire seeker of “annihilation”
>>> of Islamic Republic of Iran. In a meeting with an American diplomat,
>>> General Yadlin dubbed Iranian, Syrian and Hezbollah’s weapons as
>>> “tools of terrorism” and not war weapons. He also showed immense
>>> eagerness to attack Syrian nuclear facilities.
>>>
>>> General Yadlin also told American diplomat that timeframe of Iran
>>> nuclear weapons preparation and timeframe to attack Iran were to be
>>> totally different issues. He also differed with Americans over the
>>> ability of Iran to prepare nuclear weapons and instead said that Iran
>>> had sufficient enriched uranium to manufacture a single nuclear device
>>> and may soon have enough for making another bomb.
>>>
>>> Iran is busy setting up two new nuclear installations, Yadlin told the
>>> US diplomat adding that M-I has indications that work has began on the
>>> installations, but did not comment on the sources. Yadlin, who was
>>> later-on replaced by Brigadier General Aviv Kochav, also spoke of Iran
>>> as the greatest threat facing Israel, not only in the nuclear respect.
>>> “Iran is sending its long arms to aid anyone who is working against
>>> Israel,” Yadlin said. “Such assessments are undoubtedly weighing on
>>> Prime Minister Netanyahu’s mind as he considers the possible need for
>>> an Israeli pre-emptive strike on Iran,” the cable said.
>>>
>>> Mossad chief Meir Dagan very proudly told Americans that his special
>>> team had eliminated Hamas top military strategist Izzadin Sheikh
>>> Khalil through a terror plot. The cable informed Washington that in
>>> fact Dagan had established a number of “hit teams” through which he
>>> was getting engaged in non-intelligence operations and also used these
>>> hit men for certain personal vendettas as well.
>>>
>>> Dagan, in a meeting with US Under Secretary of State for Political
>>> Affairs, William Burns, proposed Americans a five point agenda to fix
>>> Iran. The focus of the agenda was to change the regime at Tehran and
>>> to launch an ethnic movement throughout Iran to destabilise the
>>> country before launching the final attack.
>>>
>>> Karzai patron-in-chief of Afghan drug mafia
>>>
>>> A cable from Kabul termed Afghan President as the “patron-in-chief” of
>>> the Afghan drug mafia. The cable, citing certain verified UNODC
>>> figures, stated that Karzai was living at the mercy of Afghan warlords
>>> who, with the passage of time, had transformed into drug lords. The
>>> cable stated that there was an annual drug trade of 3 trillion dollars
>>> from Pakistan while the Karzai administration was keeping mum over the
>>> same.
>>>
>>> Another cable stated that Indian involvement in Afghanistan was
>>> increasing considerably and all was going on with the consent and
>>> knowledge of President Karzai and his administration. The cable
>>> further reads that growing Indian influence and presence in
>>> Afghanistan was focused towards Pakistan and China, both
>>> simultaneously.
>>>
>>> Saudia Arabia planned anti-Hezbollah force
>>>
>>> Saudi Arabia proposed setting up an Arab force to fight Hezbollah
>>> militants in Lebanon with the help of the US, UN and Nato, according
>>> to a leaked document. In a meeting in May 2008 with a US diplomat in
>>> Iraq, David Satterfield, Saudi Foreign Minister Saud al-Faisal said a
>>> “security response” was needed to the “military challenge” posed to
>>> Beirut by the Iran-backed militants.
>>>
>>> The Saudi prince feared a Hezbollah victory against the Lebanese
>>> government, led by then prime minister Fuad Siniora, would eventually
>>> lead to Iran’s takeover of the country.
>>>
>>> There was a need for an “Arab force” to create and maintain order in
>>> and around Beirut, he argued, saying the Lebanese army was “too
>>> fragile to bear more pressure,” according to the cable from the US
>>> embassy in Riyadh.
>>>
>>> Such a force would be aided by UNIFIL troops deployed in southern
>>> Lebanon, while the “US and Nato would need to provide movement and
>>> logistic support, as well as naval and air cover,” the cable added.
>>>
>>> Saudis killed Yemeni civilians in border war
>>>
>>> According to a leaked document, Saudi armed forces killed Yemeni
>>> civilians when fighting Shia rebels in a brief border war despite
>>> assurances that only rebel targets were hit.
>>>
>>> Saudi Arabia fought Yemeni rebels for several months in a border war
>>> that ended with a ceasefire in February.
>>>
>>> In public statements during the fighting, Saudi Arabia said that only
>>> rebel positions in the border area were attacked. But the leaked
>>> cables suggest civilians died.
>>>
>>> “Obviously some civilians died, though we wish that this did not
>>> happen,” the prince, who is also assistant defence minister, said in
>>> the meeting requested by the ambassador to relay US concerns about
>>> civilian casualties in the conflict.
>>>
>>> Prince Khaled confirmed that Saudi forces hit a building the United
>>> States believed to be a clinic but the Saudis thought it was being
>>> used as a base by rebels. He also said the Yemeni military had helped
>>> recommend rebel targets, the cable said.The Saudi military used
>>> “massively disproportionate force” in a campaign last year against
>>> guerrillas seen by the army as “embarrassingly long,” according to
>>> another leaked cable.
>>>
>>> “Day and night aerial bombardment and artillery shelling have been the
>>> main instruments of what is increasingly regarded within the Saudi
>>> military as an embarrassingly long campaign,” said the memo from the
>>> US embassy in Riyadh. The three-month operation against the lightly
>>> armed Huthi guerrillas on the border areas with Yemen was also seen as
>>> “poorly planned and executed” and “brought unexpectedly high Saudi
>>> casualties”.
>>>
>>> “Nonetheless, the conflict has been carefully spun as a heroic and
>>> successful struggle to protect Saudi sovereignty,” the memo added.
>>>
>>> Britain faced Libya threats over Lockerbie bomber
>>>
>>> Britain faced threats from Libya of dire consequences if the ailing
>>> Lockerbie bomber died in a Scottish prison. Threats included the
>>> cessation of all British commercial activity in Libya and
>>> demonstrations against British facilities, as well as suggestions
>>> Britons in the country could be put at risk, according to the cables.
>>>
>>> And despite London’s attempts to publicly distance itself from the
>>> decision to release Abdelbaset Ali Mohmet al-Megrahi — which was made
>>> by the devolved Scottish government — the cables show enormous British
>>> relief at the move.
>>>
>>> Libyan officials warned their British counterparts that “consequences
>>> for the UK-Libya bilateral relationship would be dire were al-Megrahi
>>> to die in Scottish prison,” read one dispatch from the US ambassador
>>> to Tripoli in January 2009.
>>>
>>> And if Washington publicly opposed the release, “the US Embassy and
>>> private Americans in Libya could face similar consequences,” read the
>>> cable from the ambassador, Gene A Cretz.
>>>
>>> Megrahi was the only person ever convicted over the 1988 bombing of a
>>> Pan Am Jumbo jet over Lockerbie, Scotland, which killed 270 people,
>>> most of them US nationals. He was released in August, 2009, on
>>> compassionate grounds after doctors diagnosed him with prostate cancer
>>> and gave him just three months to live, sparking outrage in the United
>>> States. More than a year later he remains alive in Tripoli, however,
>>> renewing anger in the US.
>>>
>>> One cable showed Britain’s then justice minister, Jack Straw, told US
>>> diplomats that although Megrahi might have up to five years to live,
>>> the Scottish government appeared inclined to release him. “Megrahi
>>> could have as long as five years to live,” said the correspondence,
>>> cited in Britain’s Guardian newspaper.
>>>
>>> Article Source:
>>>
>>> http://www.thenews.com.pk/TodaysPrintDetail.aspx?ID=2549&Cat=13
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