[Reader-list] Gujarat's secular development

Rajendra Bhat Uppinangadi rajen786uppinangady at gmail.com
Sun Jun 13 18:08:45 IST 2010

Democracy is such a crzy concept that it gives all of us to express
ourselves, Anupam, may be not in the politburo but sure in this list.!

On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 6:04 PM, anupam chakravartty <c.anupam at gmail.com>wrote:

> how, you, Rajendra, as a male with your such and such leanings have the
> authority to talk of Muslim women wearing hijab and the conditions of
> Azamgarh? did they tell you personally that they are oppressed? just how?
> who gives you that right? please explain.
> On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Rajendra Bhat Uppinangadi <
> rajen786uppinangady at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Rakesh, it is very easy to get into blame game, for the errors of few
>> "admirers" who made the mistake of hardsell the Modi image, with photos
>> from
>> Azamgarh girls in the Shibli College, if at all, little efforts were made,
>> there are enough muslim young women who are well educated in Gujarath,
>> with
>> good mobility seeking jobs, getting them in places like Noida, Bangalore,
>> Chennai, staying in PG accommodation without the hassles of hijab, and the
>> fact that the photo has "traditional" faces of islamic girls says so much
>> about the rigid truth of the Azamgarh.
>> It is unfortunate that today, everything in politics is about management
>> of
>> perceptions, on one side the hate campaign for Modi bashings, on the other
>> hand, efforts to whitewash the image of "secular" Modi, what really
>> required
>> for free india today is the governance without any labels for delivery of
>> good of governance, unfettered by faith, caste and regions.Nitish who had
>> supped the power for all these years with percieved "communal" BJP is
>> suddenly aware of this perception management and now makes blank noice
>> with
>> elections in view and his rival lalu rubbing his hands in glee. Even at
>> the
>> cost of dividing the votes both these leaders have been guilty of managing
>> the perceptions like all the leaders in political arena.
>> Sadly, none seem to pay attention to details of the present and give more
>> stress on the past, even if they are only managed perceptions that Modi is
>> butcher.?
>> regards,
>> rajen.
>> On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Rakesh Iyer <rakesh.rnbdj at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Indeed, Gujarat has a secular development, which was being showcased by
>> > Narendra Modi (or his sympathizers at least) in the form of ads
>> published
>> > in
>> > Bihar papers, which interestingly had a photo of girls learning computer
>> > education. Sadly for whoever got the advertisement published, truth
>> emerged
>> > that the photos were of a college in Azamgarh and not in Gujarat,
>> neither
>> > were the girls Gujarati or sent by the Gujarat govt. to Azamgarh as part
>> of
>> > a scholarship.
>> >
>> > It would be interesting if the Gujarat govt. does showcase this secular
>> > development in the form of encouraging journalists and other ordinary
>> > citizens to come to Gujarat and see for themselves the condition of
>> > Muslims,
>> > rather than sympathizers of Modi putting out such dubious ads in
>> > newspapers.
>> >
>> >
>> > The biggest problem with the Gujarat govt. including Modi is that they
>> > don't
>> > have the guts to give answers, but instead point to the wrong questions.
>> > When somebody asks about justice for post-Godhra victims, Modi turns to
>> the
>> > agricultural growth of the state. This is extremely dubious. After all,
>> if
>> > a
>> > state has positive agricultural growth (which is indeed an achievement),
>> > why
>> > should we be questioning Modi at all on it? Just to ensure he gets
>> > publicity? Any politician or public authority is questioned for the
>> wrong
>> > or
>> > controversial decisions he/she had taken at some point of time. Instead
>> of
>> > having the guts and the conviction to answer the truth and accept one's
>> own
>> > mistakes, Modi and his sympathizers and partymen only parrot the
>> positives
>> > as if Narendra Modi is God who can do no wrong.
>> >
>> > They yet don't have the guts to say sorry for what happened in 2002,
>> when
>> > ironically a Manmohan Singh (who had no control over what happened in
>> > 1984),
>> > said sorry for 1984. The 'sorry' won't mean justice has been done, but
>> the
>> > 'sorry' indeed will be a big change as it will mean a reflection on the
>> > fact
>> > that irrespective of their belief that Muslims are traitors or are not
>> > patriotic to the Indian nationhood, a RSS-karyakarta-turned CM would
>> have
>> > accepted that he failed in protecting their lives as Indian citizens and
>> > violated the Indian constitution in that manner, and that he promises
>> that
>> > such a thing will never happen in future. But he won't say sorry,
>> because
>> > he
>> > hardly cares about those who died, and it would instead affect his
>> public
>> > image in Gujarat as a Hindutva hardliner.
>> >
>> > It is indeed wrong when we bring every question of Gujarat's development
>> > back to 2002. But to forget 2002 would be dubious because what Modi has
>> > done
>> > and got away with will encourage other CM's also to do the same and win
>> > elections on the dead bodies of people. Modi would have himself been
>> > encouraged by the 1984 pogrom organized by Congress which got away with
>> it.
>> > Therefore, it's time people like Modi are taken to task for having
>> messed
>> > around with the Indian criminal judicial system and the lives of
>> innocents.
>> >
>> > By the way, Shiv Sena constructed many mosques after coming to power in
>> > Maharashtra (on the plank of having 'protected Hindus'). That doesn't
>> > absolve them of what they did before coming to power, i.e. killing
>> > innocents. Your good deeds can't absolve you of your bad ones. And that
>> > should be understood clearly.
>> >
>> > Rakesh
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>> Rajen.
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