[Reader-list] Kashmiri-intifada

Wed Oct 6 03:26:31 IST 2010

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On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 3:21 AM, Pheeta Ram <pheeta.ram at gmail.com> wrote:

> Inder bhai! Zyada zor lagaane ki zaroorat nahin! Hum sehmat hain!
>
> "Azadi in Kashmir needs a broader conceptual frame to sustain the
> dialogue of Freedom.."
>
> Par yeh kya? SARAI ko kya hua? Kuch galati hui ho to maafi ka praraarthi?

Aaapka apna

Pheeta Ram

>
>
> On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Inder Salim <indersalim at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks dear A Mani
>>
>> It is always very wonderful to read a new perspective concerning K Issue.
>> which in fact is extending  K boarder and beyond.... Here the term
>> like Marxist might open new vistas of different terminology to connect
>> itself with others to bridge the growing new robust youth who are
>> already looking different with new avenues to express change of status
>> quo. Thereby softening the crest of the terms .... It is JP Sartre
>> warns about how we owe our expression to the sumptuousness of terms
>> and phrases and terms. so,....
>>
>> It is really heartening that POK has a visible base of such a wave
>> which can sabotage  the USA deep state politics in our region. The US
>> aversion of terms like communist has a history of its own which has
>> created right wing demon, and it looks it is a matter of time before
>> these demons realize the benefits of new understanding the universal (
>> change )  rather than remain confined to religious bigotry and
>> fantasy, which only provides an alibi to US and allies to strike at
>> will, and keep us fighting each other. Time should come soon when we
>> refuse to buy their arms to kill our people..
>>
>>
>> The are many terms in vogue at the moment in Kashmir which can
>> radically change to more universal terms like Pro-Freedom Movement,
>> People for Change, Boarder Riders etc. which can attract more and more
>> free minds from both sides of the boarder and beyond.
>>
>> the change is inevitable, may be it is too soon to see a big wave
>> picking up the entire region. I am optimistic,
>>
>> with love
>>
>> is
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 4:46 PM, A. Mani <a.mani.cms at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > See http://www.marxist.com/kashmiri-intifada.htm
>> >
>> >
>> > The site is of course completely Trotskyist, but the article should be
>> > of some interest.
>> >
>> > Excerpt
>> > "Time and again the masses of Kashmir, and specially the youth, have
>> > been crushed by state repression but the movement keeps on erupting.
>> > However, the present movement is in the hands of a different and a new
>> > generation (which was raised in the violent period) and instead of
>> > emotional slogans and metaphysical ideologies it is based on the firm
>> > realities of deprivation with clear economic and social demands. The
>> > rulers of India cannot therefore label it as being sponsored by
>> > Pakistan or Islamic fundamentalism.
>> > .........
>> >
>> > The character of the movement shows that there is growing
>> > radicalisation in Kashmiri society and particularly among the youth,
>> > and the distrust in religious and so called nationalist parties is
>> > proof that this radicalisation is clearly going towards the left. The
>> > CPI(M) which has some basis in Kashmir if not vast support, but it
>> > needs to provide a clear programme of revolutionary socialism that
>> > would inevitably connect with the aspirations of this movement and
>> > transform the whole dimension of the conflict in Kashmir on both sides
>> > of the ‘line of control’. If the central leadership of CPI(M) instead
>> > of following the policy of bourgeois Indian nationalism and the
>> > so-called “national democratic revolution” based on the two-stage
>> > theory, were to adopt a clear Leninist class policy on the national
>> > question by providing solutions to all the problems, including that of
>> > national liberation, linked to a socialist revolution and unite the
>> > struggle in Kashmir with the class struggle of the Indian proletariat,
>> > the state would face a formidable challenge that it would not be able
>> > to confront and would be forced to withdraw its armed forces and end
>> > these brutalities. Such a victory would open up the floodgates of a
>> > revolutionary upheaval throughout the South Asian subcontinent. The
>> > compromising policies of the left parties’ central leadership have
>> > crippled the CPIM in Kashmir and it has thus failed to gain the
>> > support among the youth which it could easily have won.
>> >
>> > ..............
>> >
>> > This will also have a revolutionary impact in Pakistani Occupied
>> > Kashmir where the Marxist forces are already growing and gaining
>> > popular support. The JKNSF has gained a mass basis amongst the youth
>> > on a revolutionary programme and with the slogan, “Freedom is our aim,
>> > Socialism is our destiny”.
>> >
>> >
>> > However, a socialist revolution in Kashmir cannot remain confined to
>> > its borders; in fact it is very difficult to carry out a socialist
>> > revolution within Kashmir alone without the class solidarity and
>> > active participation of the working masses of Pakistan and India and
>> > even if a revolution were to be victorious it could not be sustained
>> > for long the capitalist imperialist states of India and Pakistan
>> > remain intact. But the situation is changing not only in Kashmir;
>> > there are new revolutionary storms that impend across the horizon,
>> > across the whole of the subcontinent. The conditions for social
>> > upheaval and militant class struggle are being created everywhere."
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Best
>> >
>> > A. Mani
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > A. Mani
>> > ASL, CLC,  AMS, CMS
>> > http://www.logicamani.co.cc
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