[Reader-list] [The Moderates] Norway: The Untold Story

A. Mani a.mani.cms at gmail.com
Mon Aug 15 02:52:39 IST 2011


There are no insinuations. I do not see how you find it 'negative'.
Basically the article exposes negative attitude of the media.
It is about the behaviour of the media in many parts of the world. It
got reported by many Finnish newspapers for example with interviews.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tomchiversscience/100099405/utoya-massacre-a-married-lesbian-couple-an-act-of-heroism-and-a-media-silence/

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On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 2:07 AM, Mohammad Imran <dalibagh at gmail.com> wrote:
> There are three insinuations in this story:
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> Women saving men and adolescents
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> Lesbians saving men and adolescents
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> Married lesbians saving men and adolescents
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> This story must have been written when someone heard about them and contacted them.
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> Is it possible that the two of them Hege Dalen and Toril Hansen decided to keep a low profile because that is the way they want to live instead of showing off their heroism and bravery.
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> I have no answer, but the tone of the story is negative towards lesbians and women
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> Imran
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> On Aug 14, 2011, at 1:02 PM, A. Mani wrote:
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>> The Untold Story
>>
>> Aug 11th
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>> In lots of ways, it is the ideal human interest story. It is the story
>> of heroism in the face of the unthinkable. Yet we did not get to hear
>> about it until a week later, and it is worth asking why.
>>
>> Two campers on the other side of the lake from the island of Utøya,
>> where the Norwegian massacre happened, heard gunfire and screams while
>> they were eating their supper. Without thought for their personal
>> safety, they took their boat and crossed towards the firing. Bullets
>> hit the boat, but they pulled the fleeing youngsters from the water
>> and crossed back and forth repeatedly. It was not a very big boat, so
>> it took four trips to save 40 teenagers who may otherwise have been
>> shot, or drowned trying to escape. Without them, the massacre could
>> have been considerably more bloody even than it was. So why have we
>> hardly heard about them?
>>
>> In the first place, Hege Dalen and Toril Hansen are women. A lot of
>> the press like their tales of heroism to fit standard narratives, in
>> which men protect and women nurture. In action films, women are mostly
>> there so that the manly men can be rivals for their love, and to make
>> sure that audiences never ever think that there is anything even the
>> littlest bit gay about the boyish tussling for supremacy they enact
>> while being heroic. Women are not, in these narratives, supposed to be
>> competent: they don’t drive well and they twist their ankles running
>> away in unsuitable shoes.
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>> In the second place, Dalen and Hansen are lesbians. In television
>> narratives, the few heroines we are allowed to see are always
>> heterosexual; even when they are allowed to be competent, and wear
>> sensible action-adventure outfits, they always end up melting into
>> some man’s arms in the end. Mainstream culture does not like the idea
>> of lesbians being people who would put themselves in danger to save
>> teenagers, probably heterosexual teenagers, that they have never met.
>> We are far more used to lesbian couples, in very special issue-driven
>> episodes, being in danger, and having to be rescued themselves.
>>
>> Third, they are a married couple and you can just imagine news editors
>> in Washington worrying that, if they pushed the story, they would be
>> accused of promoting "the gay agenda". American rightwing pundits that
>> came close to saying "well, we disapprove of Breivik’s methods but you
>> have to understand that there is something quite sinister about a
>> summer camp of leftwing youth activists" was never going to be happy
>> with lesbian heroism, and married lesbian heroes would just have made
>> their heads explode.
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>> It is a shame. We all need stories about people who put themselves in
>> danger to save lives when bad things are happening; we all need to
>> know that there are people out there who are not ideologically driven
>> killers. In particular, gay teens need to be told not just that it
>> gets better, but that they, personally, may one day get the chance to
>> step up, be heroic and make it better. [By the Guardian]
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>> Best
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>> A. Mani
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